Tuesday, October 28, 2025

Elder A. Theodore Tuttle, Part Four: The Problem with Dr. Paul Popenoe

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Sometimes in researching history, we find people who we feel are ahead of their time, like they understood life as we know it today. 

And then sometimes, there are others who did the best they could with what they knew...but from our perspective, it doesn't look very good at all.

Today's quote involves the latter, from Elder A. Theodore Tuttle's talk, "The Things That Matter Most": 

 


The Quote

Dr. [Paul] Popenoe said, 

“Our youth are not products of their own lives, 

but of what their parents give them. 

If we can get parents to set a good example, 

we will take away 

the greatest stumbling block between generations.” 

 

Pretty innocuous - sounding, right? Parents, set a good example for your kids, and there's good things that come out of that. Who could disagree, right?

And then, I looked up the guy who (presumably) said it.  Dr. Paul Popenoe -

Oh boy.


We've Got Another Eddie Cantor here...

Like I said in my blog about the reference to Eddie Cantor, sometimes we can look at someone from history and explore more of what they said or did, and use it as enrichment for our current lives.

And sometimes... just not. 

You know, like how people can either, by their choices and examples, become shining examples or horrible warnings?

 

Meet My Grandparents 

I have one grandmother who I loved with all my girlish heart - she was a great example to me of how to age gracefully. She always seemed happy and was glad to help others. She stayed active and interested in life, and she loved all of her grand-kids. I wanted to be like her. She created a future that I wanted to grow into. 

My other set of grandparents stood out in stark contrast. They weren't interested in people, but stayed in their room, watching pro wrestling on TV, always insisting that it was real, when even as a small child, I wasn't buying it. 

They grumbled and complained about everything. They seemed more angry than happy, and didn't take care of themselves physically. I didn't want to be anywhere near them, and felt like this could also be my future. One that I feared. They were half my DNA, and I wished I could cut them out of my life completely.

Of course, reality was much more nuanced than I was able to understand at eight years old, and I realized that as I grew older. The way I thought about my grandparents is how a lot of people think about history. If historical figures don't agree with us today, then they were terrible people and we should shut them out entirely of our experience, right?

Right?

Well, not fully.

Obviously, Dr. Paul Popenoe said the good thing that ended up in the Conference talk as gospel-compatible - at least, he's attributed here with saying it.. When I went to search for this quote in his existing works, I came across some very objectionable ideas I will not reprint here. Eugenics is a topic that is no longer looked upon with warmth and acceptance today, for very good reason.

Did Dr. Popenoe realize in the 1920s that his work in eugenics would help fuel the Nazi Holocaust and contribute to the deaths of millions upon millions of people the Nazis considered to be 'waste humanity' (his words)?

There's some evidence that he may have, sadly.  I can't recommend any of his works as good or useful today, and I certainly won't be adding them to my reading list. Some lessons have been learned, and we can leave those works behind, except if we need to learn what not to do or think. 

Again, do what you like with this information, but you've been warned.

But remember, few people are fully bad or fully good. 

 

There's (Almost) Always Another Side to History 

My grandmother that I loved also smoked and played cards, two aspects of her life that I can't emulate myself. Almost every kid she had came from a different father, because no one taught her anything about sex back then. I did the complete opposite of her in that area, even to the point of hosting a blog about sexuality for awhile with my hubby.

My grandparents that I thought were so horrible had one of the best and closest marriage relationships of anyone in either of their families. They played together as children, and married when they grew up. My grandfather looked like David Bowie when he was young, and had a work ethic that would have crushed lesser men. My grandmother loved her sons and protected them with the determination and strength of a junkyard bulldog - all very admirable traits.

 


We're all a mix of black and white and shades of gray, in the end.

Dr. Popenoe is, on the whole, one of those horrible historical warnings overall, as well as being my fifth cousin three times removed. Bleah.

He may have said some good things, and perhaps had some good intentions that went very wrong, not having the benefit of hindsight that I have in the era I live in. I'm content to let God figure out where he falls in the spectrum of good and bad, as I am with my grandparents.

One day history will judge me, and who knows what they'll know then, and how stupid I look to them. I would hope that future generations would judge me as mercifully as possible, and I'll try to do the same for the past. 

That to me is another "stumbling block between generations" that we should probably keep an eye on, don't you think?

 

Elder A. Theodore Tuttle, Part Three: Finding Close Facsimiles to the Orphan Quote

 For Part One, Part Two, or Part Four, click on that link!

Have you ever just looked at a project and sighed? Too big.

That's what I did, looking at today's sort-of quote from Elder A. Theodore Tuttle's talk, "The Things that Matter Most".

 

The Quote Rephrased 

 "Someone rephrased this thought: “Too often we are involved in the thick of thin things.”"

 

Haven't you heard that thought your entire life? I know I have, but honestly, I have no idea where to even start with this one.

So in the spirit of the talk itself, I decided instead to find similar quotes throughout history, hopefully from the right people. And that was useful, I thought.

 

Presenting the Historical Parade of Similar Quotes

The first one I found came from Stephen R. Covey, who probably said it after this talk came out. It was similar, but he wasn't the first to come out with it.

 

"“We spend most of our time 

in the thick of thin things.” 

- from Chapter 3 of the Seven Habits of Highly Effective People

 

A very good book, one that I've read many times. He talks in the habit of Putting First Things First about how we often prioritize activities that in the long run don't really matter much to creating a good life.

 

"...I foresee, that, if my wants should be much increased, 

the labor required to supply them 

would become a drudgery. 

If I should sell both my forenoons and afternoons 

to society, as most appear to do, 

I am sure, that for me there would be nothing left worth living for. 

I trust that I shall never thus sell my birthright 

for a mess of pottage. 

I wish to suggest that a man may be very industrious, 

and yet not spend his time well.

- Henry David Thoreau, from the essay "Life Without Principle" (1854)

 

Thoreau put a lot of emphasis on how living slow could be living well, as his book 'Walden' attests, and how some activities are more important to our well being than others. Most interesting to me is how he references the biblical story of Esau, who sold his priesthood birthright to his brother Jacob for some food (a mess of pottage) because he was hungry after hunting, and didn't care about his birthright until it was gone.

 

This last one's a little longer - hang in there with me...

For the rest...

 he deals much in the feeling of Wonder; 

insists on the necessity and high worth of universal Wonder; 

which he holds to be the only reasonable temper 

for the denizen of so singular a Planet as ours. 

"Wonder," says he, "

is the basis of Worship: 

the reign of wonder is perennial, indestructible in Man; 

...That progress of Science, 

which is to destroy Wonder, 

and in its stead substitute Mensuration and Numeration, 

finds small favor with T..., 

much as he otherwise venerates these two latter processes.

"Shall your Science," exclaims he, 

"proceed in the small chink-lighted, or even oil-lighted, underground workshop of Logic alone; 

and man's mind become an Arithmetical Mill, 

whereof Memory is the Hopper, 

and mere Tables of Sines and Tangents, 

Codification, and Treatises...? 

... I mean that Thought without Reverence is barren, perhaps poisonous; 

at best, dies like cookery with the day that called it forth; 

does not live, like sowing, 

in successive tilths and wider-spreading harvests, 

bringing food and plenteous increase to all Time."

- Thomas Carlyle, Sartor Resartus

 

In case you missed some of that, let me sum up.

Thomas Carlyle compares living in wonder on this planet to living only in logic, facts and figures, which are certainly important, but no so important as to allow ourselves to be consumed in them. Reverence and worship and wonder are important to a full life, and should not be devalued because they don't make money or bring us power.

Or something like that.


Stay in the thick of thick things today, my friends. :-) 

 

 


 

Elder A. Theodore Tuttle, Part Two: Meet Ashley Montagu, Who Could Be Someone Else...

 For Part One, Part Three, or Part Four, click on that link!

 Elder A. Theodore Tuttle had several references in his talk, "The Things That Matter Most", a talk about the importance of setting priorities.

 


 The Quote 

"This points up our challenge: 

See “that the things that matter most … 

are not at the mercy 

of things that matter least.” (Ashley Montague.)"

 

Who was Ashley Montagu?

Ashley Montagu was a British-American anthropologist, whose opinions on race and women got him in trouble with the majority in his time. He lost his position teaching at the university and managed to reinvent himself as a freelance intellectual of sorts. 

A very interesting guy, and a prolific writer of various nonfiction works, in addition to being the husband of my seventh cousin three times removed. A very remote Jewish relation, which makes me happy. He's also the author of The Elephant Man, which was made into a movie by David Lynch in 1980.

But it's unlikely he said this quote.

Though he wrote a lot - I could be wrong. 

It could be Ashley Montagu. However, it also could be Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe. It seems to be attributed to both men in different places.

 

The Content of the Quote

Since I can't determine definitively where the quote came from, I turn to the content of it. Either way, there are things that matter most - and there are things that matter least.

And figuring out which one is which is often a moment-by-moment evaluation that's not easily done in advance, except in the macro view. 

My faith, my family, and my work and learning come before pretty much anything else - because, in my belief system, faith and family continue out a lot longer than mere mortality. We lived before we came to this earth, we live here for a time, and then we live after. We are as eternal as God is, being His children.

To those who believe in God, there's a definite purpose to being here on Earth. It's a time to show God that we can be obedient to Him, and try our best to become like Him.

The side effect of this effort is personal peace through challenges, and eternal life with Him after we die.

 

Christ, by Heinrich Hoffman

Therefore, other distractions (of which there are plenty all around) have to be minimized to take care of these priorities. And it is indeed a challenge, but one that I am willing to face, for the love of Him that loved me first.